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Punching: alignment with the forearm
Posted On 07/11/2008 23:34:20 by dandjurdjevic
I have often been asked: "What is the correct alignment of your forearm to your fist in a standard punch?" Given that in karate and most Eastern martial arts (excluding arts such as Wing Chun) the standard punch strikes with the 2 big knuckles, you could be forgiven for thinking that the top of the forearm should align (be flush) with those 2 knuckles. Makes sense doesn't it? But actually this is not the case.

Indeed, if you make a fist and then hold your forearm vertically, side on (so that your fist is pointing up and you're looking at your wrist so that you can see whether it angles the fist up or down), you'll notice that you could, if you wanted, make the back of your hand flush with your forearm. That means that the top knuckles are in a straight line with your forearm and your energy is going to be transmitted in a straight line (theoretically).

The problem however is that if you look at the palm side of your fist, it now slopes down quite a lot - increasing the risk of your wrist buckling on impact. If this occurs it not only renders your punch largely useless, but it is also is painful and injurious (I speak from experience).

On the other hand you could angle your fist/wrist so that the bottom of your fist is in line with the bottom of your forearm. The problem with this is (a) the risk of wrist buckling the other way (less likely, but more severe when it happens) and (b ) you'll be striking with the smaller knuckles in a kind of "bear paw" punch, not with the 2 main knuckles.

The solution is to see your fist as it is: a natural "Y" shape. In other words, neither the top of the forearm nor the bottom of the forearm lines up with the top or bottom of the wrist.

Even if your fist shape is such that this causes your small knuckles to protrude a smidgeon ahead of your big knuckles, what happens in practice is that on impact your fist compresses and the imapct is transferred almost immediately to the 2 big knuckles.

Do some knuckle push ups (on the 2 big knuckles of course) and look at your self in a mirror, noting the angle of wrist to forearm and you'll see what I mean. Without compression (either static or on impact) your fist looks very different, so be mindful of this.

To summarise: the fist and forearm have a "Y" shape. Neither the top nor bottom should be flush with the top or bottom of your forearm.

Copyright © 2008 Dejan Djurdjevic

Tags: Karate Punch Alignment Forearm Muidokan Knuckles



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From: dandjurdjevic
07/15/2008 19:56:29

tigerldy wrote:

I have learned that when actually striking someone or something that I should rotate the fist just slightly clockwise for better stability. What are your thoughts on that?



I've heard that over the years. I don't know if it makes a great deal of difference either way in my case...

I think it can have an effect depending on your fist shape. Many people don't have a "naturally flat" fist, meaning that they risk contacting too much with the smaller knuckle of the forefinger (which in turn affects the stability of the punch). A slight extra turn mitigates this. On the other hand I've tried it and it makes no real difference to the stability of my fist/punch. I'd do it if your sensei has taught you that way!

As a matter of interest, I had one student who adopted the "Funakoshi" fist as an alternative - see http://www.fightingarts.com/reading/article.php?id=215.

Hope you're well tigerldy!


From: tigerldy
07/15/2008 19:40:07

I have learned that when actually striking someone or something that I should rotate the fist just slightly clockwise for better stability. What are your thoughts on that?



From: dandjurdjevic
07/15/2008 16:46:27

FlowingPower wrote:

Seem if you are talking about alignment of the wrist you should be able to see quite well from a view down the arm as Sensi Modi said. It would show a view of what the person performing would be looking at on their own person. Thus allowing them a easier learning curve.

Not that I agree with that bone alignment article though for striking.



My article is about up or down alignment. To illustrate it in the article I needed a "side-on" picture. I would not have been able to make my point clearly with any other angle shot.

As a teaching aid it might be helpful to have an over the shoulder picture, but I'm not attempting to provide a teaching/training aid.

In any event, if you want to shape your alignment, stand sideways looking in the mirror and check it that way!
:)


From: FlowingPower
07/15/2008 15:09:01

Seem if you are talking about alignment of the wrist you should be able to see quite well from a view down the arm as Sensi Modi said. It would show a view of what the person performing would be looking at on their own person. Thus allowing them a easier learning curve.

Not that I agree with that bone alignment article though for striking.



From: dandjurdjevic
07/14/2008 20:55:45

senseimodi wrote:
That's the only angle the puncher can see their fist from.


If you're thinking a camera shot from over the puncher's shoulder, I doubt it would be easy to discern the correct "up or down" angle of your wrist from there (which is the point I'm making).


From: senseimodi
07/14/2008 19:06:50
That's the only angle the puncher can see their fist from.


From: dandjurdjevic
07/13/2008 20:51:52

senseimodi wrote:
A picture of the fist from above looking down might be helpful.



(((pmg)))


I'm afraid I don't see how. The only crucial point in relation to the view from above is that the 2 knuckles should line up with the forearm - this happens automatically if you're punching with the 2 big knuckles.

My point was the angle up or down of the wrist - which can't be seen from above...


From: senseimodi
07/12/2008 20:02:35
A picture of the fist from above looking down might be helpful.

(((pmg)))




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