Welcome Guest Login or Signup
FLASHCHAT | INSTANT MESSENGER | BOOKMARK
| LANGUAGE:
 

You need to upgrade your Flash Player
BLOGS   WRITE NEW BLOG   EDIT BLOGS  
 
RSS
Form and formality in martial arts techniques
Posted On 05/12/2008 01:59:06 by dandjurdjevic
Cross referring the internal arts and goju has helped me discern not only a possible historical and technical relationship, but more importantly it has helped me understand the function of "formal" training, such as kata. I think that seeing how someone else does the same thing can give you a great deal of insight into what it is you are doing and why.

Ultimately we all want to effect a natural, "no-nonsense" technique. However it seems to me that many “modern” stylists have thrown the baby out with the bathwater by abandoning the "formal" aspects of traditional martial arts, not realising that these have a training purpose (not unlike the speedball might have a particular training purpose for a boxer, even though no boxer ever "hits someone like that").

I have found the Chen Pan Ling taijiquan movements generally correspond the most with minimalist, natural way of moving. Bagua and xingyi tend to have progressively greater elements of "formality" in the movement. I think the formality is not there for its own sake, but to focus attention on certain aspects that are vital in producing an effective technique (eg. tension in a particular muscle, lack of tension in another).

In my opinion karate techniques are, yet again, even more “formal” than the internal arts of xingyi, bagua and taiji. This formality can be seen not only in the basics (which many argue cannot be applied in sparring — more on this contentious subject later) but also in the tempo and “phrasing” of kata performance. For example, sometimes a kata employs dynamic tension at a particular point in a movement to prepare the body for encountering resistance.

In this regard it is interesting to note that both Chen Pan Ling and Hong Yi Xiang of Taiwan taught their arts in the following order: an external Shaolin art (comparable to karate), xingyiquan, baguazhang, then taijiquan. The justification for this methodology is that you start with less "natural" movements, but spend necessary time training in basic skills, muscle development etc. When you have become sufficiently senior you "abandon form" so that you are moving naturally - almost like a beginner, but this time with purpose and efficacy.

Copyright © 2008 Dejan Djurdjevic

Tags: Form Formality Kata Internal Goju Karate Xingyi Bagua Taiji



Bookmark:



Viewing 1 - 4 out of 4 Comments

From: dandjurdjevic
05/14/2008 18:20:52

Kumaken wrote:

I got it from my Aikido classes as we classify the three performances of technique using three ways of writing kanji 1. Kaisho 2. Gyousho 3. Shousho I don't know if all organiations do so or just mine. Interstingly its usually the kaisho and gyousho performance of techniques that are often cited as being impractical (particularly on Youtube). When Sensei performs the technique Shousho it can look rather different from the kaisho step by step pattern but the principle of the technique is there. Though I can't yet perform at that level, I've experienced some of those technques on the other end.

Here is a link for reference

http://www.takase.com/Library/Glossary.htm


Thanks for the link Kumaken.  I found it interesting and informative.


From: Kumaken
05/14/2008 03:14:06

I got it from my Aikido classes as we classify the three performances of technique using three ways of writing kanji 1. Kaisho 2. Gyousho 3. Shousho I don't know if all organiations do so or just mine. Interstingly its usually the kaisho and gyousho performance of techniques that are often cited as being impractical (particularly on Youtube). When Sensei performs the technique Shousho it can look rather different from the kaisho step by step pattern but the principle of the technique is there. Though I can't yet perform at that level, I've experienced some of those technques on the other end.

Here is a link for reference

http://www.takase.com/Library/Glossary.htm


From: dandjurdjevic
05/13/2008 07:16:13

Kumaken wrote:
Interesting Dan. And Aikido progresses much the same way in the sense that one typically starts out learning the mechanical part of the technique often static (like learning to print letters) then to adding a more fluid movement (like learning to write cursive) then ultimately to a spontaneous "no technique" technique (more calligraphy like writing).


The letter writing analogy is marvellous.  Thanks for the input.


From: Kumaken
05/13/2008 02:45:10
Interesting Dan. And Aikido progresses much the same way in the sense that one typically starts out learning the mechanical part of the technique often static (like learning to print letters) then to adding a more fluid movement (like learning to write cursive) then ultimately to a spontaneous "no technique" technique (more calligraphy like writing)

I agree that many want to bypass the formal training because they feel its impractical etc. and thus throw the baby out with the bath water. And I can't say how much studying another art has given me greater insight into my karate training by being able to see connections, similarities, and differences in form, principle and application.  




*** The Martial Arts Friends Online Community ***
Powered by phpFoX Version 1.6.20